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	<~~DIV~~ STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: See... when, um, when you and I were boys back in the Midwest...		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: See... when, um, when you and I were boys back in the Midwest...</SPAN>

	Carson: Right....		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: Right....</SPAN>

	Reagan: Governments, federal state and local were only taking about 15 cents out of every dollar earned. Today, they're		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: Governments, federal state and local were only taking about 15 cents out of every dollar earned. Today, they're taking almost half of every dollar earned in the United States and most people don't realize it because the taxes are hidden in the so-called business taxes, you know, the politician that stands up and yells, "Oh let's save the little man, let's tax business" and everybody yells "hurray". They haven't figured out that every tax on business is just a part of the cost of production and the customer winds up paying it when he buys the product. It's a hidden sales tax. There's 116 of them in a... the suit of clothes that each one of us is wearing.</SPAN>
	taking almost half of every dollar earned in the United States and most people don't realize it because the taxes are hidden in the so-called business taxes, you know, the politician that stands up and yells, "Oh let's save the little man, let's tax business" and everybody yells "hurray". They haven't figured out that every tax on business is just a part of the cost of production and the customer winds up paying it when he buys the product. It's a hidden sales tax. There's 116 of them in a... the suit of clothes that each one of us is wearing.

	Carson: Uh-huh. So a lot of economists have suggested, and I don't know they'll ever come to be in this country, that they're... if they closed all of the loopholes and corporations and maybe tax loopholes and even on the rich certain loopholes and and made a percentage income and made a flat fee without all of the deductions that the government might raise as much money as they do now.		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: Uh-huh. So a lot of economists have suggested, and I don't know they'll ever come to be in this country, that they're... if they closed all of the loopholes and corporations and maybe tax loopholes and even on the rich certain loopholes and and made a percentage income and made a flat fee without all of the deductions that the government might raise as much money as they do now.</SPAN>

	Reagan: Oh sure and really the loopholes, this has been overdone by the politicians too. The bulk of the money that is taken by what are called loopholes are the legitimate deductions with which if the people didn't have them they couldn't pay their income tax; interest on their mortgage, interest on the installments on their... on their car, their property taxes on their home, if they have one and so forth. These are, in politicians eyes, loopholes. But we ought to have tax reform and we ought to start by making it so simple that you don't have to hire a lawyer to find out how much you owe every year.		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: Oh sure and really the loopholes, this has been overdone by the politicians too. The bulk of the money that is taken by what are called loopholes are the legitimate deductions with which if the people didn't have them they couldn't pay their income tax; interest on their mortgage, interest on the installments on their... on their car, their property taxes on their home, if they have one and so forth. These are, in politicians eyes, loopholes. But we ought to have tax reform and we ought to start by making it so simple that you don't have to hire a lawyer to find out how much you owe every year.</SPAN>

	Carson: That's for sure... it used to be, uh... it used to be a little simplified but not anymore.		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: That's for sure... it used to be, uh... it used to be a little simplified but not anymore.</SPAN>

	Reagan: We... Johnny, we live in the only country in a world where it takes more brains to figure out your income tax than it does to earn the income.		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: We... Johnny, we live in the only country in a world where it takes more brains to figure out your income tax than it does to earn the income.</SPAN>

	Carson: [Laughs] You might be right.<BR /></~~DIV~~>		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: [Laughs] You might be right.<BR /></SPAN>
	Why do you think people are so they seem to be so disheartened now?<BR />		Why do you think people are so they seem to be so disheartened now?<BR />
	I know... Let's not get into the Watergate thing but that certainly had something to do with the, uh, the antipathy, I think, of a lot of people toward government, now we we see these revelations, of whether their revelations, or at least accusations that possibly the C.I.A. has been involved in some operations that they shouldn't have been involved in, certainly domestically, and people regularly get turned off. How do you... How do you turn people around and say "All right now, we're not going to do this anymore," and every day you see more of these things and I think people withdraw further and further and that's too bad.		I know... Let's not get into the Watergate thing but that certainly had something to do with the, uh, the antipathy, I think, of a lot of people toward government, now we we see these revelations, of whether their revelations, or at least accusations that possibly the C.I.A. has been involved in some operations that they shouldn't have been involved in, certainly domestically, and people regularly get turned off. How do you... How do you turn people around and say "All right now, we're not going to do this anymore," and every day you see more of these things and I think people withdraw further and further and that's too bad.

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	<~~SPAN~~ STYLE="background-color: ~~lightblue~~;">Reagan: See... when, um, when you and I were boys back in the Midwest...		<DIV STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: See... when, um, when you and I were boys back in the Midwest...

	Carson: Right....		Carson: Right....
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	Reagan: We... Johnny, we live in the only country in a world where it takes more brains to figure out your income tax than it does to earn the income.		Reagan: We... Johnny, we live in the only country in a world where it takes more brains to figure out your income tax than it does to earn the income.

	Carson: [Laughs] You might be right.<BR /></~~SPAN~~>		Carson: [Laughs] You might be right.<BR /></DIV>
	Why do you think people are so they seem to be so disheartened now?<BR />		Why do you think people are so they seem to be so disheartened now?<BR />
	I know... Let's not get into the Watergate thing but that certainly had something to do with the, uh, the antipathy, I think, of a lot of people toward government, now we we see these revelations, of whether their revelations, or at least accusations that possibly the C.I.A. has been involved in some operations that they shouldn't have been involved in, certainly domestically, and people regularly get turned off. How do you... How do you turn people around and say "All right now, we're not going to do this anymore," and every day you see more of these things and I think people withdraw further and further and that's too bad.		I know... Let's not get into the Watergate thing but that certainly had something to do with the, uh, the antipathy, I think, of a lot of people toward government, now we we see these revelations, of whether their revelations, or at least accusations that possibly the C.I.A. has been involved in some operations that they shouldn't have been involved in, certainly domestically, and people regularly get turned off. How do you... How do you turn people around and say "All right now, we're not going to do this anymore," and every day you see more of these things and I think people withdraw further and further and that's too bad.

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	Reagan: See... when, um, when you and I were boys back in the Midwest...		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: lightblue;">Reagan: See... when, um, when you and I were boys back in the Midwest...

	Carson: Right....		Carson: Right....
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	taking almost half of every dollar earned in the United States and most people don't realize it because the taxes are hidden in the so-called business taxes, you know, the politician that stands up and yells, "Oh let's save the little man, let's tax business" and everybody yells "hurray". They haven't figured out that every tax on business is just a part of the cost of production and the customer winds up paying it when he buys the product. It's a hidden sales tax. There's 116 of them in a... the suit of clothes that each one of us is wearing.		taking almost half of every dollar earned in the United States and most people don't realize it because the taxes are hidden in the so-called business taxes, you know, the politician that stands up and yells, "Oh let's save the little man, let's tax business" and everybody yells "hurray". They haven't figured out that every tax on business is just a part of the cost of production and the customer winds up paying it when he buys the product. It's a hidden sales tax. There's 116 of them in a... the suit of clothes that each one of us is wearing.

	Carson: Uh-huh. So a lot of economists have suggested, and I don't know they'll ever come to be in this country, that they're if they closed all of the loopholes and corporations and maybe tax loopholes and even on the rich certain loopholes and and made a percentage income and made a flat fee without all of the deductions that the government might raise as much money as they do now.		Carson: Uh-huh. So a lot of economists have suggested, and I don't know they'll ever come to be in this country, that they're... if they closed all of the loopholes and corporations and maybe tax loopholes and even on the rich certain loopholes and and made a percentage income and made a flat fee without all of the deductions that the government might raise as much money as they do now.

	Reagan: Oh sure and really the loopholes, this has been overdone by the politicians too. The bulk of the money that is taken by what are called loopholes are the legitimate deductions with which if the people didn't have them they couldn't pay their income tax; interest on their mortgage, interest on the installments on their... on their car, their property taxes on their home, if they have one and so forth. These are, in politicians eyes, loopholes. But we ought to have tax reform and we ought to start by making it so simple that you don't have to hire a lawyer to find out how much you owe every year.		Reagan: Oh sure and really the loopholes, this has been overdone by the politicians too. The bulk of the money that is taken by what are called loopholes are the legitimate deductions with which if the people didn't have them they couldn't pay their income tax; interest on their mortgage, interest on the installments on their... on their car, their property taxes on their home, if they have one and so forth. These are, in politicians eyes, loopholes. But we ought to have tax reform and we ought to start by making it so simple that you don't have to hire a lawyer to find out how much you owe every year.

	Carson: That's for sure it used to be uh it used to be a little simplified but not anymore.		Carson: That's for sure... it used to be, uh... it used to be a little simplified but not anymore.

	Reagan: We... Johnny, we live in the only country in a world where it takes more brains to figure out your income tax than it does to earn the income.		Reagan: We... Johnny, we live in the only country in a world where it takes more brains to figure out your income tax than it does to earn the income.

	Carson: [Laughs] You might be right.<BR />		Carson: [Laughs] You might be right.<BR /></SPAN>
	Why do you think people are so they seem to be so disheartened now?<BR />		Why do you think people are so they seem to be so disheartened now?<BR />
	I know... Let's not get into the Watergate thing but that certainly had something to do with the, uh, the antipathy, I think, of a lot of people toward government, now we we see these revelations, of whether their revelations, or at least accusations that possibly the C.I.A. has been involved in some operations that they shouldn't have been involved in, certainly domestically, and people regularly get turned off. How do you... How do you turn people around and say "All right now, we're not going to do this anymore," and every day you see more of these things and I think people withdraw further and further and that's too bad.		I know... Let's not get into the Watergate thing but that certainly had something to do with the, uh, the antipathy, I think, of a lot of people toward government, now we we see these revelations, of whether their revelations, or at least accusations that possibly the C.I.A. has been involved in some operations that they shouldn't have been involved in, certainly domestically, and people regularly get turned off. How do you... How do you turn people around and say "All right now, we're not going to do this anymore," and every day you see more of these things and I think people withdraw further and further and that's too bad.

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	(The portions of the full video that are included in the clip will be emphasized in the transcript below.)		(The portions of the full video that are included in the clip will be emphasized in the transcript below.)

	This clip was a portion of a 20+ minute [[yt:xrNKguJLUYE\|Interview on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson]]. Reagan had just recently ended his terms as governor of California and would have just started recording his short-form radio show, as well as writing a syndicated newspaper column.		This clip was a portion of a 20+ minute [[yt:xrNKguJLUYE\|Interview on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson]]. Reagan had just recently ended his terms as governor of California and would have just started recording his [[Reagan_Radio_Commentaries\|short-form radio show]], as well as writing a syndicated newspaper column.

	There seems to be some confusion in the Youtube video as to when this occurred. The video from the Reagan Foundation claims it was January 3, 1975, but sources such as [[wikipedia:List_of_The_Tonight_Show_Starring_Johnny_Carson_episodes_(1975)#March\|Wikipedia]], [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2983692/?ref_=ttep_ep IMDB] and the videos available from the [https://www.youtube.com/@johnnycarson Johnny Carson Youtube channel], indicate the video is from March 13, 1975. This fits the early discussion, in which Reagan jokes about having been "unemployed" for a couple months.		There seems to be some confusion in the Youtube video as to when this occurred. The video from the Reagan Foundation claims it was January 3, 1975, but sources such as [[wikipedia:List_of_The_Tonight_Show_Starring_Johnny_Carson_episodes_(1975)#March\|Wikipedia]], [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2983692/?ref_=ttep_ep IMDB] and the videos available from the [https://www.youtube.com/@johnnycarson Johnny Carson Youtube channel], indicate the video is from March 13, 1975. This fits the early discussion, in which Reagan jokes about having been "unemployed" for a couple months.

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	Reagan: Uh, yeah, you... you... you sure... sure don't. I wish I could think of a good get-off line.		Reagan: Uh, yeah, you... you... you sure... sure don't. I wish I could think of a good get-off line.

	Carson: I have ~~Laurence~~ Spivak's old questions you know for that.		Carson: I have [[wikipedia:Lawrence_Spivak\|Lawrence Spivak]]'s old questions you know for that.

	Reagan: Nancy, Nancy you know said to say hello tonight she thought it was great that we're both in town at the same time.		Reagan: Nancy, Nancy you know said to say hello tonight she thought it was great that we're both in town at the same time.

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	Reagan: Well I agree with some things and disagree with others. When they... when they give me a... when they give me a choice between a 53 billion dollar deficit in the budget and an 80 billion dollar deficit, <SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">when budget deficits are what's causing inflation, I don't see that there's any room to be on either side of that argument. I think the answer to curing inflation is a balanced budget.		Reagan: Well I agree with some things and disagree with others. When they... when they give me a... when they give me a choice between a 53 billion dollar deficit in the budget and an 80 billion dollar deficit, <SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">when budget deficits are what's causing inflation, I don't see that there's any room to be on either side of that argument. I think the answer to curing inflation is a balanced budget.

	Carson: Now how do you do that? I mean how do you balance the budget?		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: Now how do you do that? I mean how do you balance the budget?

	Reagan: Well balancing the budget is like protecting...		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: Well balancing the budget is like protecting...

	Carson: You don't spend more than you take in.		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: You don't spend more than you take in.

	Reagan: Right. It's like protecting your virtue. You have to learn to say no.		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: Right. It's like protecting your virtue. You have to learn to say no.

	''(Applause)''		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">''(Applause)''

	Carson: There's got to be another way. ''(Laughter)'' What's the second option?		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: There's got to be another way. ''(Laughter)'' What's the second option?

	Reagan: Well, no, there's some ways that this could be brought about first of all that limitation. Here's another one.		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: Well, no, there's some ways that this could be brought about first of all that limitation. Here's another one.
	Why shouldn't we have in addition to a simplified income tax why shouldn't we also have a law that says that anytime a legislator a congressman introduces a spending program he has to introduce with it a tax program to pay for it then let the people find out.		Why shouldn't we have in addition to a simplified income tax why shouldn't we also have a law that says that anytime a legislator a congressman introduces a spending program he has to introduce with it a tax program to pay for it then let the people find out.<BR />
			<BR />There was a woman that... from a financial firm that was back at the president's Economic Council and her words weren't quoted... Everybody else's words got in the paper, all the [[wikipedia:Walter_Heller\|Hellers]] and the [[wikipedia:John_Kenneth_Galbraith\|Galbraiths]] and all the so-called economists. And I had... I have a degree in economics so I can say this, I think an economist is someone who has a [[75-10-A2\|Phi Beta Kappa key on one end of his watch chain and no watch on the other]].<BR />
	There was a woman that... from a financial firm that was back at the president's Economic Council and her words weren't quoted... Everybody else's words got in the paper, all the [[wikipedia:Walter_Heller\|Hellers]] and the [[wikipedia:John_Kenneth_Galbraith\|Galbraiths]] and all the so-called economists. And I had... I have a degree in economics so I can say this, I think an economist is someone who has a [[75-10-A2\|Phi Beta Kappa key on one end of his watch chain and no watch on the other]].<BR />
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	Uh, this woman said that you go to the polls and you ask the people do they want some social service... some program that government can give and the people in the polls are apt to read and say that sounds good, yeah. But she says that isn't exactly accurate. She says put a 100 bill in each person's hand and then show them the program and say, "Now isn't that a nice program? Do you want it? Give me the hundred dollars." and she says see what the poll says then and how many people hang on with a hundred dollars instead of the program.		Uh, this woman said that you go to the polls and you ask the people do they want some social service... some program that government can give and the people in the polls are apt to read and say that sounds good, yeah. But she says that isn't exactly accurate. She says put a 100 bill in each person's hand and then show them the program and say, "Now isn't that a nice program? Do you want it? Give me the hundred dollars." and she says see what the poll says then and how many people hang on with a hundred dollars instead of the program.

	Carson: in other words it was rather hidden and someone doesn't know exactly where it's going to come...		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: in other words it was rather hidden and someone doesn't know exactly where it's going to come...

	Reagan: They all start... all the government programs start a dollar down and we'll catch you later. And... and they they multiply all of those things that you would...<BR />		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: They all start... all the government programs start a dollar down and we'll catch you later. And... and they they multiply all of those things that you would...<BR />
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	government. But all of them can pass regulations and those regulations have the force of law. And the difference is when you break the law, you're innocent until proven guilty, when you break a regulation the fellow that charges you with a breaking the regulation, you're guilty.		government. But all of them can pass regulations and those regulations have the force of law. And the difference is when you break the law, you're innocent until proven guilty, when you break a regulation the fellow that charges you with a breaking the regulation, you're guilty.

	Carson: Right.		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: Right.

	Reagan: If you want to take him to court and prove you're innocent that's up to you. And all of these are things that that... um yes we can trim the budget. there's enough fat in the federal government that if you rendered it you could wash the world.</SPAN>		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: If you want to take him to court and prove you're innocent that's up to you. And all of these are things that that... um yes we can trim the budget. there's enough fat in the federal government that if you rendered it you could wash the world.</SPAN>

	Carson: You, uh now you took... ''(Applause)'' They took a poll of the American people the past week and I think 78 percent, or something around 75 percent were opposed to more military aid to Vietnam and Cambodia and southeast Asia in general and yet the administration uh was trying to tell the American people that a couple hundred million or 222 million dollars would make some kind of difference or that the government might make it. And, uh, how do you feel you think that that is a lost cause in a way? I think people can see humanitarian, you know, for children hospitals, et cetera, and medical supplies, and food but it seems that the public has just almost had it up with military involvement where we feel we are not directly threatened.		Carson: You, uh now you took... ''(Applause)'' They took a poll of the American people the past week and I think 78 percent, or something around 75 percent were opposed to more military aid to Vietnam and Cambodia and southeast Asia in general and yet the administration uh was trying to tell the American people that a couple hundred million or 222 million dollars would make some kind of difference or that the government might make it. And, uh, how do you feel you think that that is a lost cause in a way? I think people can see humanitarian, you know, for children hospitals, et cetera, and medical supplies, and food but it seems that the public has just almost had it up with military involvement where we feel we are not directly threatened.

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	Carson: No we laugh at those things but they do happen, I guess.		Carson: No we laugh at those things but they do happen, I guess.

	Reagan: Oh, listen there, you had... you had some beauties, and there's some others. <SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">What would you say if I told you about one, a study, in which... this was called the um, the [[75-01-A4\|Demography of Happiness]]. And in this study the government found out that young people are happier than old people; they found out that people that earn more are happier than people that earn less; and they found out that well people are happier than sick people.		Reagan: Oh, listen there, you had... you had some beauties, and there's some others. <SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">What would you say if I told you about one, a study, in which... this was called the um, the [[75-01-A4\|Demography of Happiness]]. And in this study the government found out that young people are happier than old people; they found out that people that earn more are happier than people that earn less; and they found out that well people are happier than sick people.</SPAN>

	Carson: That's good. Glad to know that.		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: That's good. Glad to know that.</SPAN>

	Reagan: $249,000 to find out it's better to be rich, young, and healthy than old, poor, and sick.		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: $249,000 to find out it's better to be rich, young, and healthy than old, poor, and sick.</SPAN>

	''(Laughter and Applause)''</SPAN>		''(Laughter and Applause)''</SPAN>
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	Reagan: The lowest percentage in history only 38 percent of the people voted in the national election and this means that people aren't paying any attention to what, well, here <SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">a poll was taken recently that found out that only 46 percent of the people in the poll could name their United States Congressman. But what was worse 86 percent of those who could name him, couldn't tell you a single thing that he represented or stood for.		Reagan: The lowest percentage in history only 38 percent of the people voted in the national election and this means that people aren't paying any attention to what, well, here <SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">a poll was taken recently that found out that only 46 percent of the people in the poll could name their United States Congressman. But what was worse 86 percent of those who could name him, couldn't tell you a single thing that he represented or stood for.

	Carson: They just knew that he represented the state...		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: They just knew that he represented the state...

	Reagan: He was a congressman but what's he doing while he's up there and the same is true at the at the local levels of government and... and all the rest. But uh...		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: He was a congressman but what's he doing while he's up there and the same is true at the at the local levels of government and... and all the rest. But uh...

	Carson: So you're saying people really have to take an active interest and you have to have, uh, citizen action groups locally and uh...		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: So you're saying people really have to take an active interest and you have to have, uh, citizen action groups locally and uh...

	Reagan: And let them know ''[crosstalk]''<BR />		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: And let them know ''[crosstalk]''<BR />
	Now the special interest groups aren't as everyone thought big powerful business interests are something that are going to persuade government to do things as a matter of fact I don't know anyone with less influence today in government		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Now the special interest groups aren't as everyone thought big powerful business interests are something that are going to persuade government to do things as a matter of fact I don't know anyone with less influence today in government than business they're just a convenient whipping boy. but it's the groups that have got a particular axe to grind you can't have a power plant because it might interfere with the seagulls.<BR />
	than business they're just a convenient whipping boy. but it's the groups that have got a particular axe to grind
	you can't have a power plant because it might interfere with the seagulls.<BR />
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	Now I think I'm an environmentalist and I do not agree with those people way over the edge who paved the whole country over in the name of progress, but also I don't like those on the other extreme that won't let you build a house unless it looks like a bird's nest someplace in the middle we got to allow... people are ecology too.<BR />		Now I think I'm an environmentalist and I do not agree with those people way over the edge who paved the whole country over in the name of progress, but also I don't like those on the other extreme that won't let you build a house unless it looks like a bird's nest someplace in the middle we got to allow... people are ecology too.<BR />

	Carson: Right...		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Carson: Right...

	Reagan: Well this kind of group and they want their particular program. Hundreds of dollars have been added to the cost of an automobile putting gadgets on it to to clear up the air. We're the only country in the world that set out to do it that way.</SPAN> The automobile industry, over and over again, told government if they give them more time, the answer lay in making the motor more efficient and making it burn the fuel better and... when they were given the limited time there was only one thing they could turn to... that was the add-ons that you had to go.		<SPAN STYLE="background-color: yellow;">Reagan: Well this kind of group and they want their particular program. Hundreds of dollars have been added to the cost of an automobile putting gadgets on it to to clear up the air. We're the only country in the world that set out to do it that way.</SPAN> The automobile industry, over and over again, told government if they give them more time, the answer lay in making the motor more efficient and making it burn the fuel better and... when they were given the limited time there was only one thing they could turn to... that was the add-ons that you had to go.

	Carson: And, uh, the verdict is really kind of still out on on those whether they're going to add more sulfuric acid to the to the air or not.		Carson: And, uh, the verdict is really kind of still out on on those whether they're going to add more sulfuric acid to the to the air or not.